It’s true what you’re saying. A long time ago, we kept the healers and the drums in the dark. We used to use the bonfire most of the time. When the fire was lit, the healers went out and danced. Sometimes, some spirits that had so much power would step on the fire that you would think: “That person under the power of the spirit will burn oneself.” But it didn’t burn. When we had no water, we would go out somewhere, we called the older men and women, and they would go to the places called “places of the spirits of the earth” and play the drums in those places. A long time ago, there were powers of spiritualism where you would find white chickens scattered around. When you looked at them, you would say: “oh my God” and then they would disappear. You don’t even see where those chickens are. But nowadays, that’s gone. The places are abandoned. We go there only to chop firewood. There’s nothing.